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If you want to know what's going on you will need to read the description. I know it's humongous but I can't explain everything in short lines.I'm sorry.
Uhm, remember this drawing ? Well, if don't first read what says in its description and then come back here. :S
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Have you read it? Well, this "young lady" hasn't stopped to preoccupy my minds since then. On contrary, her story was just developing and developing and in last two-three weeks it's just blooming. Yes, it is another comic based on Nuzlocke run but run for this one still isn't over (I'm training for fifth gym) and even with that I'm not sure if it'll be based on Platinum. The thing is... I have received a wonderful notes from one wonderful person in which she was sharing an idea for her future project and it has a similar and again not so similar... hm, how should I put this... we have the same idea for something original like this but plots, developments and worlds are completely different. I had this idea in my mind before you sent me that note, dear person (she knows who she is) and I assure you, I took absolutely nothing from all you shared with me. And there is one more person who plans to make a collab nuzlocke that follows the same idea (but again, it has nothing else in common) and I must say again, this idea occurred to me unrelated to that and I was developing it (and I still do) completely alone and without using anything from your idea. What bugs me about all this... this nuzlockes could look pretty similar and all of us have a plan to make it based on Platinum runs. Regardless to the fact that they ARE completely different they could look the same on the first sight and even more, if they are all based on the same game. But I want to play it with Platinum, that was the first PKMN game I ever played, I don't see many gen IV nuzlocke comics and I'm especially bonded with my starter in this game (not to mention how cool team I currently have, it's almost like I'm not playing a nuzlocke challenge 0.0 ). But, I see a lot of people preparing Platinum nuzlockes and that bugs me. Who knows if they will come to life but still. Why not other games? Any other games that can be turned into comic are BW or BW2 but... I'm tied with a plot... there will be a lot of it (and when I say "a lot" I mean it. More than in MOH... much more than in MOH @.@)... and the only type of starter that comes out of the question doesn't fit in gen IV (not to mention a lot of other things which I won't list here since this description will turn into a novel. 0.0
"Monsters of Hoenn" is dead. I'm terribly sorry but that's the fact. I saw that coming a long ago but somehow I kept struggling and finding a way to improve it but with such a bad start it was doomed to collapse.
Reasons (there are many, here are some major ones):
- I started this comic too early, I had no previous experience in making "real" comics (if we ignore all those comics that children draw in notebooks) and I didn't do my homework when I was starting MOH. I had planned some major plot elements, the end and how I want my characters look like... nothing more. Their personalities wasn't fully shaped, I had some personality growth in plan but nothing precisely (like when and how are they flow) and it was just a stupid little comic without good foundations. Everything was okay until I started to read tutorials, advises and some really high quality comics. I started to see how I rushed... I started to see everything that wasn't good with my little comic -->
- I went to read whole from the start and I was shocked how horrible it was written (wall of text on each page... wall of something that shouldn't be so represented in a comic). I barely made it to the end and if I were a reader who just run into it I would stop reading it somewhere at the half. :S It's exhausting to read it and it shouldn't be. There are so many holes in plot that it's horrible. And not to mention art. I could start drawing MOH in this preview's style but that horrible quality would stand there for eternity and distract people from continuing. And that is true.
- That Emerald run was something like third run in my Pokemon career and I still wasn't a good at playing it. Which means, I didn't use TMs (since I had no idea how they actually work). Just to picture it to you, I challenged E4 with Electrode whose moveset was: sonic boom, explosion, spark and something what I don't remember (notebook where I have all that written is not here with me but I assure that it was something horrible and usefulness). -.- Yeah, it was that bad. How realistic would that look in a comic. My only strategy was to over level my team and that's how I finished that game (and I had very few losses too)
- Honestly, I completely lost my motivation after this. Joy of making this comic has gone and it would be a torture to continue
-All things considered, I had to pass through this and grow with it. I work like that. First dog I ever had (I still have him) didn't turn out to be the best example of how a good and well trained dog should look like, but now I see what we did wrong and I'll know for the future. It's like that with everything else. I have to burn food to see where I did wrong. No cooking books will help me if I don't mess up. And guess what - every next time that meal is prepared better and better and tastes better and better.
(I will probably upload that last part which is almost done but I haven't been properly working on it for ages and than I'll explain everything even better. If you want I will post all major plot elements I had on mind in short lines. But only if you say so.)
Will this comic ever come to a life? I don't know. I had this preview sketched on a paper for quite long time and I decided to end MOH's story with it. I am currently planning everything. I'm creating all characters from top to bottom, with all their flaws, personality issues, personal growth, their relationships and everything. I have more job than I would usually have since this won't be usual nuzlocke that follows the game. I'll have to adjust all gym leaders, E4 and all major events from the game since this story will (I stress, if!) take place in a completely new world with completely new rules. It's not based on medieval ages, it's more like a RPG based but not completely (only characters' designs and politic of that world). There won't be gyms nor E4, nor champion, everything will be twisted out but it'll keep the spirit of Pokemon. Our heroine won't be the typical heroine and her motivations won't be usual. :/ The world of Pokemon where this takes place has very little in common with the colorful world of Pokemon we all know. With all that on mind it will pass at least a month before I even decide if I'll bring this project to life or not. I must see the final product, whole plot and see how much free time I will have with my faculty to even start this. I won't repeat the same mistake. I will publish sketches of characters' designs on my tumblr as I proceed with them and I will probably write their role in the story (or maybe not, I have yet to discuss this with myself).
This won't be a humorous comic. I'm not a funny person (well, most of the time) and my jokes are bad. But I tend to think a lot. This was a product of it... and it will carry a lot of philosophical questions that can bother a young person or anyone who thinks about life.
Planned style for this comic: check the style of a preview. Yes, you read right. I did this page completely without traditionally drawn lines, I just roughly sketched position of objects on panels. That's something new for me. Really. And it was actually less exhausting than drawing by hands and then going above all lines again digitally. I have yet to decide with myself should I draw it in colors or in grey tones but you have a general idea. I just can't do this in such a low quality like MOH, if nothing, that will keep me interested to actually work on this thing.
Look back at the picture. Isn't that the best ending line for a preview/prologue or what!?!?!? You all who look beyond first meaning will see it.
I probably forgot to add something. Lucky you. huh XD
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Comments: 56
Lion-Oh-Day [2012-11-13 03:03:53 +0000 UTC]
(Hi lepto long time no chat >.< my bad)
Sad to see Moh get put down but at least you've said its over. (Un like thousands of other un finished comics. What mine nooooo.....). Though you should finish it, maybe a quick drawling about how you wanted it to end, or a joke ending (Then they all were killed by Arceus) just something to end it.
But I'm pumped for this new comic (When if It comes out).
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Leptocyon In reply to Lion-Oh-Day [2012-11-15 22:10:05 +0000 UTC]
well, you can't blame yourself only. I was too busy (and I still am)
yeah
I don't believe that I would draw ending alone because that wouldn't have sense to you if you don't know what happened before. I will write down major plot element, add final team and deaths and post it as journal in which I will officially end MOH. It is sad, but I accepted it.
Yeah. Problem is that I'm pumped too. >.< Ideas won't stop coming and it distracts me from my studying too much. :/
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Lion-Oh-Day In reply to Leptocyon [2012-11-15 23:42:59 +0000 UTC]
Well I'll read it!
Yeah I know that feeling. It took me forever to finalize the ideas.
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GreenDoodle [2012-11-04 01:16:43 +0000 UTC]
Oh gosh, talk about intense. You're great at creating suspenseful scenes like this Marta-chan. ;u;
Ah, I'm sorry to hear about MOH. :c It was one of my favorite Nuzlockes. Though, I hope for the best for your new comic! I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT!
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Leptocyon In reply to GreenDoodle [2012-11-04 22:37:30 +0000 UTC]
I just hope it won't be buried by my faculty duties before it even starts :S
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GreenDoodle In reply to Leptocyon [2012-11-05 05:21:25 +0000 UTC]
I hope so too! D: GOOD LUCK WITH EVERYTHING. <3
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OddPenguin [2012-11-02 23:18:52 +0000 UTC]
a wah wah wahhhh...aww, sorry to hear of monsters in hoenn being dead, but I understand with your sentiments, it's very easy to go back and lose motivation. there were some plot points I'd really wanted to see how'd you do but it's alright, no point continuing it if you don't enjoy it. Odd Ones is also my first long running comic, so I understand how you go back and gripe on earlier pages, it's very easy to do (just imagine how manga artists must do it too, some of their works go on for decades, and regardless everyone starts at the same opening they made when they were newer)
this take on a nuzlocke would make for a powerful story and I love the textures and coloring. shows how much more serious you would be taking this run were you to start it up. and no idea how I missed seeing this earlier
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Leptocyon In reply to OddPenguin [2012-11-04 22:42:49 +0000 UTC]
"there were some plot points I'd really wanted to see how'd you do"
Care to share which ones? Maybe I'll post major plot development and/or end if there are enough people who are interested in reading that. I'll definitely post a "farewell to MOH" journal where I'll explain everything once more and write what I had on mind for plot plus (if I get motivation to finish it) the last part that is half-way done. :S
Yeah, I would like to make it in better quality (actually, the best I can make) if possible because if nothing else, I won't have a spasm in my stomach while looking at it X(
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OddPenguin In reply to Leptocyon [2012-11-05 21:19:47 +0000 UTC]
the rayquaza trainer plot point, origins and results
final elite 4 team roster, list of who passed away and such.
there are some others, but most couldn't exactly be explained more elaborated upon, such as how you planned on doing team aqua/magma later on and all, as they were much more criminally believable and such in your nuzlocke, wanted to see how althea took them down. but that's not really a plot point I suppose >3<
and ah, found it odd you didn't post a journal like that yet, I saw ohh new nuzlocke but then read further into the comments on this and realized MOH's end. the information isn't as pubilicly announced this way, it's even in the middle of the paragraph, some of your followers still probably think your continuing it just taking your time. a journal is the best way to go about universally announcing.
and hey, most important thing is to have fun with making the nuzlocke, least I think so
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Leptocyon In reply to OddPenguin [2012-11-06 12:22:38 +0000 UTC]
oh, yes, I planned to explain that eventually (at least, I owe all of you nice readers that). And the team (oh, my Arceus. You'll probably laugh at me with which team I challenged E4 XD I was so inexperienced back then)
Hmm, yes, the thing is that I'm still notcompletely sure how to do that. You see, I planned to roughly finish next part which is half way done and then upload it together with the decent explanation journal. Plus, I still need to think over what I want to put in that journal in the first place. And it would be really nice if I manage to draw first preview sketches of all main antagonists and protagonist for the new nuzlocke (I did almost all of them traditionally and I started to practice drawing them digitally, plus I practice drawing Pokemon from team so I don't make a fool of me XD). Probably all of that will come in one shot and that's why I haven't wrote it yet.
Of course, I know. And that's why I stopped with MOH in the first place. And maybe one day that will happen to this new nuzlocke (which is still in planning process) but somehow I think that I'll be even more motivated if it's done in higher quality.
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OddPenguin In reply to Leptocyon [2012-11-06 20:25:12 +0000 UTC]
ah, sounds like a plan, and heh, my final team for my nuzlockes can be fairly laughable too, you'll see XD
ah, I understand, it's one of those kinds of plot points where you know generally what you'll do but not have it all plotted out until you get to it,
ah, those sketches sound like a good idea to convince followers that you'll be serious about the next nuzlocke and all, and it'll be interesting to see main characters like that before it even starts. heh, guess I have the opposite mindset for my nuzlocke, since it's never all that high top notch quality it's never much pressure and easy to finish in time worry free and fun. but that wouldn't work with a serious nuzlocke I don't think, so yeah, I agree with ya there for the concept you got going
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Leptocyon In reply to OddPenguin [2012-11-08 16:30:53 +0000 UTC]
It's not about the team, it's about their move sets XD I actually had a very few deaths in that run which means that my team was more less like I wanted it to be. :S
Yes, but you are strong at making it funny. Me, on the other side, am bad at making a humorous stories/comics and serious plot doesn't go well with a bad style. I thought it would but it doesn't.
But your style goes perfect with the tone of your comic.
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OddPenguin In reply to Leptocyon [2012-11-08 19:19:51 +0000 UTC]
oh gosh, I can just imagine now >3<. and ah, that's good. emerald may have been hard at parts but I didn't have many deaths in either of my nuzlocke runs of it either
ah, thanks, glad you think so, hope I can keep it up when more serious elements get added next page and here and there further on as well. but yeah, I understand it's a working method that doesn't work for most nuzlockes
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SilverMamepato [2012-10-23 15:43:16 +0000 UTC]
Awww... I liked MOH so much... In my opinion, this comic was interesting and qualitative... But if you want to end it, it's your choice. x_X I hope it will give you the opportunity to create something really brilliant.
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Cypher-DS [2012-10-23 13:44:11 +0000 UTC]
Wow, this is an intense, new interpretation of the pokemon world! You've got me interested so far; I'd love to see what else might come from this RPG-ish universe.
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Carminadelic [2012-10-23 10:07:54 +0000 UTC]
Oooooh~ this looks interesting and if it's anything philosophical then you bet I'd read it sgould it come to fruition. I'll keep an eye on this, buddy~ it's just too bad that your former nuzlocke is permanently dead.
Let's do our best with a fresh start, then
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TotoRee12 [2012-10-23 02:47:54 +0000 UTC]
It's sad to hear about MOH, but it was good while it lasted. I understand if you want to drop it and move on to something new. Speaking of new, this looks promising! I'm sure it'll be as good, possibly better, than MOH since you seem to be excited about it. ^^
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Leptocyon In reply to TotoRee12 [2012-10-23 09:55:23 +0000 UTC]
heh, I was excited about MOH when I was starting
But I can understand what you mean.
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Kisilin [2012-10-23 01:45:15 +0000 UTC]
Lepto, we're friends. I didn't recall you said you have something in mind for Platinum as well in the feedbacks you have sent me, but now I re-read them, you did
I'm very sorry if it has bugged you I shared you these infos I had in mind but I won't bite you if there are some similarities, cause I trust you
So develop your story, your characters the way you think it's the best and don't matter with what I told you about mine. Ok?
Platinum is perfect for serious plot. I had this opinion since I first play it last winter. And I haven't changed my mind. In fact, I'm even more convinced about it. DPP is neglected by most folk and all the popular nuzlocke comics runs based on those games were comedy ones (Ky-nim, Nonparael), but there is great potential which I haven't seen fully exploited. I think because DPP is the least favorite games of a lot of people, they avoid making stories taking place on Sinnoh.
Sad to hear you're dropping MoH, but when the motivation isn't there, forcing yourself is not the option. It's your first experience in comic, so of course mistakes were expected, but you seem to have found them and now, you know a bit more what to do and what not to do
I wanted to add another thing, but this is not the place, so I'll note you about it instead
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Leptocyon In reply to Kisilin [2012-10-23 09:33:11 +0000 UTC]
Uh, I was quite shocked when you sent me that note with your new nuzlocke idea because our ideas have the same foundations. Of course my story is completely different and what characters do and how they act is different and I have no problems with us having something similar... I just didn't know if you will be unsatisfied with that fact. :S
Your story is very good and it has a great potential, I don't want to endanger that.
Yeah, I don't understand why this series of games are so unpopular. :/ People tend to really dislike that generation because of Pokemon it brought but I actually really like Pokemon from that generation. And Sinnoh is a beautiful region with really interested gyms.
I've read only two nuzlockes from that generation: Ky-nim and Kit's (there is another one too which I don't know if will be continued and I have no idea what's author's name. Isn't that sad?
).
Exactly. And this time, I want to come prepared.
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Krisantyne [2012-10-22 22:44:12 +0000 UTC]
Hello Dear.
May I cry just a little over this?
...
...
Okay, all better now.
I genuinely loved Monsters of Hoenn. It was fun while it lasted. It had something that other comics don't have, something that made me enjoy reading the walls of text.
But I completely understand why you can't do this anymore. Everyone who has a history with unfinished projects does. If you don't love it anymore there's no point in forcing yourself. (I hope this one doesn't come back to haunt you forever, like that one novel of mine I still think about continuing from time to time. ;__; )
So... I'd love to see the last part and the list of plot elements you had planned. That plot was the best part.
Your new project sounds sooooo good! I'm all for serious Nuzlockes and different stuff in general. If I loved something you think is terrible, how will something that you're proud of be like? Keeping my fingers crossed that it will come to life!
Don't worry about too many Platinum Nuzlockes! I can count on one hand how many Sinnoh comics I've seen made it past the 1st badge. And there are very few of those in the first place. It wouldn't hurt having 3 or 5 or whatever new ones.
Replying to your replies tomorrow, I have to go to sleep now.
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Leptocyon In reply to Krisantyne [2012-10-22 22:53:09 +0000 UTC]
Let it out...
I still have that big spasm somewhere inside me because of doing this to Althea. I loved her story so much (and I still love it) and that's the only reason why I've been pushing myself to finish every part. It looks like it wasn't enough.
Oh, novels that haunt us down... I have one like that too But I never came back to it. And it would be so brilliant. damn.
My fingers are crossed too.
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Krisantyne In reply to Leptocyon [2012-10-23 19:29:32 +0000 UTC]
*sob*
Maybe it would do Althea justice if you draw some single pictures of future important parts of her story whenever you miss her.
Every artist has at least one of those, don't they? The worst thing is, you rarely know why exactly it happened.
Oh, I just noticed ALL of my unfinished things keep haunting me. Look at this lady: [link] . She's from my OTHER unfinished novel, the one I stopped working on 6 years ago. At least she got 3 finished ones. And Sara is pretty much a reincarnation of a character starring in the comic I drew from age 10-12. She will never let me go. The comic was terrible, but I still wish it had been a little longer.
You might be delighted to hear that my toes are crossed, too!
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Leptocyon In reply to Krisantyne [2012-10-24 17:45:53 +0000 UTC]
hm, maybe. If I catch time or if I'm bored... I'll definitely have that in mind, but I don't want to focus too much on that since I have a new heroine who needs all my attention.
True. -.-
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Krisantyne In reply to Leptocyon [2012-10-24 18:33:54 +0000 UTC]
The new heroine shall have a glorious start!
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Leptocyon In reply to zactoab [2012-10-22 22:34:07 +0000 UTC]
yeah, me too.
But I had to pass through that to see where I did wrong. And I did wrong on so many places that it's just not fixable (except that I maybe start all from new but... I don't know... )
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zactoab In reply to Leptocyon [2012-10-23 02:01:30 +0000 UTC]
I kind of know how you feel.
I remember my first real attempt at writing something. Was absolutely horrendous, but a virus crashed that computer, so I gave it a different approach, but this time with many more main characters. It was better, but still, I just don't think it's good enough.
As for my nuzlocke, I know what I want to do with it, and I don't want to give up on it, I just have severe drive issues, and lack of skill to do it.
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Leptocyon In reply to zactoab [2012-10-23 11:39:59 +0000 UTC]
Damn, this last reply could be interpreted wrong.
I just wanted to say how I know how you feel. I felt the same when starting MOH but I wanted to sharpen my drawing skills with it and I must tell, you... it really helped me! Now I can practice even more with this SXL round 2 and with sketching all characters for this possible nuzlocke. Do the same! Go there and draw. Draw when you're bored at class, draw when you don't feel like studying but most important of all, check tutorials and practice new things you learn there. That's how I did it and how I still learn.
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Leptocyon In reply to Ryotsu-san [2012-10-22 22:02:14 +0000 UTC]
I'm terribly sorry and sad that it's the case
But I had more things listed on my cons part for continuing/not continuing it.
Thing with such bad foundations was bound to collapse.
I explained a bit in a description and more and more that I think about it it's the best for me (and through me for you to. Unmotivated author doesn't write good things)
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Ryotsu-san In reply to Leptocyon [2012-10-22 23:35:18 +0000 UTC]
Oh well..at least I know anything you make will be interesting to stare at see/ read
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Leptocyon In reply to Ryotsu-san [2012-10-23 00:15:28 +0000 UTC]
I'm really honored because you feel that way
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Ryotsu-san In reply to Leptocyon [2012-10-23 00:26:40 +0000 UTC]
Well it's your honour to feel that way
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AltariaTheTyltaloid [2012-10-22 21:45:11 +0000 UTC]
This is excelent. The picture really pulls you in. I'm sorry to hear about MOH, i enjoyed it quite a bit though. As for this new comic, from what I'm hearing this is going to be great. I love to see new views of the PKMN world and it sure looks like you're going to give us a nice new glimpse of it. I'll look forward to seeing it.
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Leptocyon In reply to AltariaTheTyltaloid [2012-10-22 21:58:31 +0000 UTC]
If it comes to a life.
I'll go with a different approach this time and I certainly hopes my motivation won't fail me this time :S
Yeah, I like MOH too, but with wrong foundations it was bound to collapse. I could start doing it in a new way but I'm not so sure how much effective will that be considering that poor beginning.
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AltariaTheTyltaloid In reply to Leptocyon [2012-10-22 22:20:06 +0000 UTC]
Hopefully it will
It sounds great, I wish you the best in your endeavours.
I don't know, I apologize. I guess you could go back and revise it and when you are inspired again you can start it over new.
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Leptocyon In reply to AltariaTheTyltaloid [2012-10-22 22:32:33 +0000 UTC]
Came to my mind too as an option but then when I calculated how much time it would took to re-do all scripts and go all from the beginning... it would make you watchers happy but... I'm not sure for how long would I like doing that. And all that time I would waste I can point toward this project which offers something really unique and excites my brain cells more. :S
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AltariaTheTyltaloid In reply to Leptocyon [2012-10-22 22:48:23 +0000 UTC]
Very true, I agree. perhaps you can restart it some time in the future, but what I want to see now is this new one!
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Leptocyon In reply to AltariaTheTyltaloid [2012-10-22 23:00:19 +0000 UTC]
heh, it won't come tomorrow, I assure you XD
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AltariaTheTyltaloid In reply to Leptocyon [2012-10-22 23:02:54 +0000 UTC]
I know, I know, but a boy can atleast dream!
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Leptocyon In reply to AltariaTheTyltaloid [2012-10-22 23:20:38 +0000 UTC]
hehe, be my guest
(I do that a lot, too )
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AltariaTheTyltaloid In reply to Leptocyon [2012-10-22 23:26:33 +0000 UTC]
So how has your stay at the dorms been. (Other than bad internet)
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Leptocyon In reply to AltariaTheTyltaloid [2012-10-24 17:43:56 +0000 UTC]
Well, rather good. Better than I expected if nothing else
The best thing is that I don't have to cook by myself and I have a small room that doesn't ask a lot of cleaning. XD That saves time.
And roommate is out of the room most of the time so I have a lot of time for myself and listening to the music, drawing and all.
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AltariaTheTyltaloid In reply to Leptocyon [2012-10-24 23:06:56 +0000 UTC]
That's great! That is more or less how my dorm life is. My roommate is always out with his friends doing who knows what, so i get a lot of time.
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