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Published: 2019-04-17 08:37:40 +0000 UTC; Views: 62211; Favourites: 1682; Downloads: 363
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The second of the two comics I made for Wil Overton's Smart Bomb anthology books. This one was for the second issue, which appeared around 2015.... I think. I might have drawn it in 2011. My files have a bunch of different dates on them.The design of the people in the pod at the end was inspired by the scenes on Krypton in the 1978 Superman flick.
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Wait, I think this was an episode of the Twilight Zone.
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Sounds like the reverse of 'The Time Machine'.
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Is that the same computer core modle from your comic?
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Nice, I was waiting for the twist, I thought it were that the Earth had recovered like in Wall-E but this is funnier.
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I feel like Rod Serling should be saying something right now.
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I remember "Gone With The Blastwave" did this concept as April's Fools comic.
www.blastwave-comic.com/index.…
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I really doubt the tour vehicle driver would be friendly to the main hero of this story.
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'And the nations of the world all agreed to disarm their W.O.M.D.'
Not trying to violently shit on this, but...isn't that the plot to 'Superman 3'? Countries aren't going to surrender their nukes, and, even if they did, so what? Some government would, inevitably, invent something that's just as bad, it's just not illegal, yet; until they've already used it.
The art is engaging, and I appreciate the nod to '12 Monkeys', which is a personal favorite, but this is utopian fantasy. What your story argues is just more of the same: 'Okay, you guys, big governments made the nukes, so, do you know what would fix those? Even BIGGER governments!' This is like an obese person eating more sugar to stay in shape.
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Superman 4. This was the plot to Superman 4. And it was also parodied in the pilot for "Justice League" in the DCAU.
That being said, this comic isn't talking about surrendering their nukes. It's talking about how they agreed to stop being xenophobic bastards looking to conquer each other, and started behaving like civilized people. It's like what happened in RL with India and Pakistan, where they both developed nuclear weapons and then realized that maybe Ghandi was right, and began to reign their rhetoric in a bit. Or France and England building the Chunnel and overcoming literally a thousand years of constant feuding.
(Yes, both examples are imperfect, neither pair is completely peaceful at this time... but they're working on it, they're a lot better than they were)
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" It's talking about how they agreed to stop being xenophobic bastards looking to conquer each other, and started behaving like civilized people. "
'You realize, don't you, that the ideology that's populated more mass graves than any other, communism, is an international ethos, right? I'm just saying: I think your go-to vision of what's politically monstrous might be...myopic, historically speaking. That's not excusing "xenophobic bastards", whatever that means, just offering my perspective.
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Um... wow. I finally check into Deviant Art again for the first time in half a year, and I see this response. And... wow. No, what you're saying there is an example of the problem.
Yes, Communism killed a lot of people. So has Capitalism (and if you think otherwise, there are plenty of sweatshop workers who would disagree if they were still alive. Also miners, coffee and cacao farm workers, and of course all the people slaughtered in the "War on Terror," which is less about preventing another 9-11 and more about lining the pockets of the corporations that produce the massively expensive weapons financed by an insanely bloated military budget). And in both cases, it's not about the ideology, it's about people in power wanting to expand their power. Bastards looking to conquer each other.
Right now, as I type this, there is an ongoing conflict in Hong Kong. The Chinese government is attempting to crush the protesters. Instead, the protests are beginning to spread to the mainland. This could be the beginning of a collapse of their regime. And they are called communists... but they're not. They're CAPITALISTS. Corporations such as Apple and Nike have their factories in China. The entertainment industries capitulate to Chinese censorship for the sake of continued access to the Chinese market. This is not a Cold War relationship.
The Cold War ended three decades ago. People are no longer terrified of the bogeyman of communism. Talking about communism today is like someone living in the 1930s, attempting to discuss German-American relations by talking about Kaiser Wilhelm. Your arguments are out of date, behind the times.
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"Your arguments are out of date, behind the times."
And your's don't have a single citation to speak of.
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You want to demand citations, provide some of your own. I don't need to cite what can be easily looked up just by running a search engine for the latest news around the world. And I most certainly don't need to provide citations to verify my statements that the Cold War ended, that the Berlin Wall no longer exists, or that the conflicts of the 21st century have nothing to do with Karl Marx.
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so you want me to do your homework for you
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No. I'd say I want you to pay attention to what century you're living in, but I don't know if you're capable of that, and in case the long long LONG timespans between my replies didn't make it obvious, I'm really not sufficiently invested in arguing with a Cold Warrior to really care all that much.
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Actually Christianity has that honor, if you add up all the wars, purges, inquisitions, and "bringing the word of God to the savages" excuse europe used to justify its atrocities.
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Are you serious? A 100 million is the est. by Matt Kibbe. freethepeople.org/how-many-peo… As well David Satter, published in the WSJ, makes the same argument---100 years of Communism, with 100 million dead. www.wsj.com/articles/100-years… Economist and Historian Prof. Walter E. Williams argues in WND:
"Between 1917 and 1987, Vladimir Lenin, Josef Stalin and their successors murdered and were otherwise responsible for the deaths of 62 million of their own people. Between 1949 and 1987, China’s communists, led by Mao Zedong and his successors, murdered and were otherwise responsible for the deaths of 76 million Chinese. The most authoritative tally of history’s most murderous regimes is documented on University of Hawaii professor Rudolph J. Rummel’s website and in his book “Death by Government.”
Read more at www.wnd.com/2012/08/socialisms…
www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE…
Professor Mark Kramer from the Davis Center for Russian and Eurasian Studies at Harvard University edited “The Black Book.” Subsequent research, he told me, suggests that “the total number (of people) who died unnatural deaths under communist regimes … (is) upward of 80 million.”
80-100 million. To give you a rough idea of how devastating that number is, the human species didn't crack a billion in its population until the 19th century!
worldpopulationhistory.org/map…
www.worldometers.info/world-po…
ourworldindata.org/world-popul…
"Researchers believe that the human population began around 3 million years ago, but as hunter-gatherers, the population size remained small. In fact, around 130,000 years Before the Common Era (BCE), the number of humans on earth was only around 200,000 and largely concentrated on what is now the African continent...Despite smallpox and the bubonic plague, humans reached 1 billion by 1804. " www.worldatlas.com/articles/wo… Historical Estimates of World Pop. by Government Census census.gov/data/tables/time-se…
Communism, if 100 million is roughly the correct figure, rounded up, wiped out roughly nearly a TENTH of the human population by 1808. Almost ALL of humanity, in 1808, gone! Thanos-snapped out of existence, and you think EUROPEAN COLONIALISM did more damage? Sorry, but you're dead wrong.
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That is alot of text but if i understand the gist of your argument... you are trying to say that 100 years of comunists killed more poeple then 12 crusades, the spanish inquisition, the slaughter of the indigenous people of south America, the Caribbean, slavery, the witch hunts of the dark ages, salem, and everyone purged during the Christian take over of Rome. Not to mention everyone killed in Christian religous practices. Oh and all the natives killed in gods name in America. Sorry dont think so
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You really think those buzz words compare to a tenth of the accumulative world population up to the year 1808? I think you're hilariously naive, but points for the oh-so predictable and fashionable anti-Western rhetoric; with no citations, I couldn't help but notice, whatsoever.
Some facts, because you brought aboriginal americans up (which I refuse to call "native", as my family have lived on this continent since the 1700's):
1)Christianity didn't kill the natives, small pox did. Overwhelmingly. www.pbs.org/gunsgermssteel/var…
"Smallpox is believed to have arrived in the Americas in 1520 on a Spanish ship sailing from Cuba, carried by an infected African slave. As soon as the party landed in Mexico, the infection began its deadly voyage through the continent. Even before the arrival of Pizarro, smallpox had already devastated the Inca Empire, killing the Emperor Huayna Capac and unleashing a bitter civil war that distracted and weakened his successor, Atahuallpa."
The total population north of the Rio grande pre-Columbus is est., according to the Encyclopedia Brittanica, at 18 mil (maximum):
www.britannica.com/topic/Nativ…
2)This isn't difficult to figure out: the aboriginal population couldn't even scratch 20 million across all of North America, before European settlers---from cultures exposed to trade and contagion from not one, not two, but THREE continents---who domesticated live stock as far back as the bronze age, and thus were exposed to animal-borne diseased like small pox---came along with superior immune systems.
Disease is amoral, it doesn't have a church or a political ideology, and diseases travel faster than people.
Sorry. You're dead wrong, too.
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It wasn't just smallpox, dickweed. BTW, Native Americans have been here for a few thousand years more than your ancestors .
Yes, 75-90% of Native Americans were wiped out by a variety of diseases Europeans brought over before the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock (which happened to be Tisquantum's former hometown before he and Samoset ended up as slaves in Spain). Booming native cities like Cahokia and those of the Mississippian culture were nearly wiped out. The Haudenosaunee nation made it out only a bit better, but still took heavy losses to the diseases ravaging the land.
The massacres of the Conquistadors and so-called 'Manifest Destiny' are likely what jeremy is referring to when he mentions Natives being killed in the name of God.
In terms of things that killed Native Americans in the United States alone: European diseases, Conquistadors, British colonizers, the Beaver Wars, the French-Indian War, Jefferson's Native American policy, Andrew Jackson's Native American policy, the settlers who deliberately passed out smallpox infected blankets, the numerous broken treaties, the Trail of Tears (some of my ancestors walked that death march), General Custard's bullshit, and the American Indian boarding schools .
If you're unfamiliar with the American Indian Boarding School program, I'd recommend watching the 2009 Kevin Willmott film The Only Good Indian. Yes, the title is a reference to a phrase popularized by westerns.
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Sure is a whole lot of NO CITATIONS goin' on, there: know what would fix that? Not using wikipedia, a site where practically anybody with a keyboard and an ideological ax to grind, can spread agit-prop. Also calling someone "dick weed" is not an argument, so why even bother saying it to a total stranger? Who never said an unkind about you, let alone did an unkind thing to you? Seems a little irrational, and, oh, childish, if you ask me.
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A total stranger prattling on from his high horse.
Have some sources. It only took me 15 seconds to get these, and a minute to browse through them.
newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoda…
These next two may be written in a more low-brow manner, but it's meant to appeal to a broader audience.
www.cracked.com/blog/5-facts-a…
www.cracked.com/article_19864_…
They also cite their sources and even link some of them.
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So that gives you the social license to insult me? Did your parents die in a plane accident when you were small? Who do I have to blame for your shitty manners?
But that doesn't mean I have to have shitty manners, so let's look at these citations, shall we? Because one of us should be willing to give the other the benefit of the doubt; so I will take time out of my sunday to read these articles. Just for you.
"In fact, the pilgrims chose to land in Plymouth because of its cleared fields that had recently been planted in corn, as if by some miracle."
I find it hilarious that they're answering a "myth" with another myth. Plymouth rock was not the first settlement, nor the first Thanksgiving. Jamestown, Virginia was the first successful English settlement, and it nearly starved to death due to a communist system of food production. Only to boom when William Bradford got the crazy notion of letting people grow their own food for themselves, not "the group".
Dr. Brion McClanahan of Georgia University, Phd in Constitutional Law and American History
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OP-rv…
The Anti-Western spin is as transparent as it is shameless:
"Because the villages had been emptied by the plague the pilgrims were able to pillage what they needed."
If a village is empty, because the residents are DEAD of natural causes, you're not "pillaging it"; get a dictionary. Pillaging requires armed robbery and the use of force. They were foraging resources that nobody was using; and this is STILL a yankee-centric view of American history that completely disrespects the fact that New England wasn't the first part of America settled by British citizenry.
"Not only did the white settlers not settle anything, they didn’t carve anything out of the untamed wilderness. "
"Anything", huh? Wow, my goodness, a bare handful of anecdotes, about New England settlements, and I'm convinced! (I'm not sneering at you, I'm sneering at the hack job that is this article.) This was clearly written by children gleefully eager to extrapolate FAKE NEWS about their country's history; and I have no patience for that.
"They were Brownist Separatists who suffered religious persecution because their church taught that they should annoy the hell out of their neighbors. "
Citation needed, and not given.
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And yet you're answering a response that's over, oh, a month old?
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I agree. Jack's giving broad strokes of what a nuke build down would be like. Denuclearizing is a fine goal but it relies too much of other countries being the same mindset as the West. Imperialism and ethno-superiority ideology din't go away, it just became unpopular for a while. I also think it's comically interesting that the Tomorrow People are all White haired and blue eyed, where've I seen that before...?
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"Imperialism and ethno-superiority ideology din't go away, it just became unpopular for a while."
I'm more concerned about globalized socialism through "unions" like the EU. It already has a national bank, and it's refusing to accept popular votes to leave it, and it's demonizing members, like Poland and Hungary, who build fences to keep from being invaded: and now ass hats like Merkel are openly pining for the EU to have a large standing continental army. As much as a meme the Nazis are, I don't care about them so much as I do that; because the real threat is much more subtle than goose-stepping cartoons www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsql52….
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thats going to be fun when the truth is finaly revealed
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If by fun you mean full-scale rioting in the bunker.
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This is reminiscent of a television show I saw a while ago (either a remade Twilight Zone series or a remake of The Outer Limits). That story was of a lone man who had resigned himself to living in a twilit, freezing hell with the ever increasing scarcity of food and the ticking of his radiation counter. Afraid to venture beyond the perimeter of his experience, he is entombed, while above him, the world has been transformed into a green, breathing, sunlit place full of happy families and playing children...
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